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AUDIT 313: School Is Out With Wyatt Cenac

You last listened July 9, 2023

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For the final episode of The Audit season three, Dave and Josh are joined by comedian and actor Wyatt Cenac. These old-school chums engage in a wide-ranging exploration of their favorite PragerU topics, including abortion, climate change, guns, pornography, and “woke” investing. 

PragerU videos we discussed this week:
For all Star Trek fans out there, here’s the link to the Bad Faith episode where Wyatt and Josh debate whether or not the Federation is a space navy.

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Josh Olson 51:03
yeah, that's the problem. The problem with your school that's doing a bad people idea is that that is kind of a system and then you'd have to acknowledge there are systemic problems so I think they just fall back right

Wyatt Cenac 51:12
Yeah, but that but it's that weird thing of like yeah, there's just bad guys there's nothing we can do about it. Except these late stage abortions with guns

[VIDEO] 51:23
that's why conservatives want guns to protect themselves from the bad guys it's not much more complicated than that

Dave Anthony 51:32
it's just it's just a delightfully just be racist just this is just pure like the all the white people are scared that's all this is ever fucking Ben for that. Yeah.

Wyatt Cenac 51:46
And the bad guys the nebulous bad guys, we we don't know. What qualifies a bad guy is a bad guy is a bad guy. Someone who breaks into your house or is a bad guy, a person with a Black Lives Matter tattoo that they won't show you

Josh Olson 52:07
know, now that you can see I think is the problem. It's the lens you can see

[VIDEO] 52:11
on tolerance. Conservative see tolerance as a two way street. If someone demands to be addressed by certain pronouns, and considers it intolerant if you don't comply, conservatives wonder why that is an intolerant.

Dave Anthony 52:25
What are you talking about? Like, if I go up to you and I go, Hey, call me Dave. And you're like, Okay, Frank, then you know, you're a fucking asshole. Like, I want you to call me what I want you to call me. What's What's your fucking problem?

Wyatt Cenac 52:39
Yeah, that like, that seems so that's very much. Yeah. In by that by by that analogy. It's like, No, I see you as a frank. And I don't care that I don't care that it's your name. But your name is Dave that that's what you want to call yourself. I a complete stranger. Choose to call you Frank.

Josh Olson 53:06
And you're intolerant that that upsets you? I hereby declare that this Amala and we're gonna just start I'm gonna start calling her a douche nozzle. That's it. That's her name. That's what I call her and she's prom with her own tolerance.

Wyatt Cenac 53:20
I'm gonna call her bizarro because she's Briana she's bizarre obreon

Josh Olson 53:33
me I'm explaining how conservative good

[VIDEO] 53:36
i are a conservative gonna be so mad at Miss worthy of respect than anyone elses. On authoritarianism. Whenever conservatives win political power, they're typically trying to cut taxes and regulations make the government smaller and bolster constitutional freedoms like that of speech and religion. That doesn't sound very authoritarian does it? aggressive policy?

Wyatt Cenac 53:59
Yeah. Cuz you know, you know, you know, you know, authoritarian government is definitely big government it's not the smallest government you can find one person rules them all.

Dave Anthony 54:14
Yeah, so if they wanted smaller government that means they're shrinking when they get in there, they shrink the military, they shrink the police force. FBI all those things get smaller, right?

Wyatt Cenac 54:25
No, those are those are those are safety things those are to protect from the bad guys. Yeah. Oh, you need those. Those are just those are just different guns. So that's not government. No, no, those are just gardens. No, but let's

Josh Olson 54:43
let's be clear, it has gotten fucking weirder. Because after the the FBI raided Trump's place, remember this and all of a sudden you had like Republicans calling?

Dave Anthony 54:51
Yeah, we were like, Yeah, let's go.

Josh Olson 54:54
Let's go. Yeah, where would I stand with you? Marjorie Taylor Greene. Yeah, it just got so fucking weird. It's Yo, what's up is down what do you call, breathe Zara. Zara

[VIDEO] 55:07
always raises taxes, expands regulations, increases the size of government and now curtails free speech to

Dave Anthony 55:16
the government has been passing the the progressives just keep passing laws to stop free speech. They keep making you use pronouns they did the congressional pronoun bill passed that was obviously a problem Yep.

Josh Olson 55:36
Mike Biden would not shut up he was like, if you don't vote for this, I'm just gonna I'm just gonna pass on myself. It was scary. It was very very scary

[VIDEO] 55:45
but conservative that sounds authoritarian

Josh Olson 55:48
regulating spending regulations to like make sure that the milk you drink doesn't kill you.

Dave Anthony 55:52
Yeah. Hey, what am I don't want piss in my milk. Is that is that going to be a problem? Is that big government?

[VIDEO] 55:58
Well, now that you've heard a few of their arguments do you dislike conservatives less than you did before?

Dave Anthony 56:03
More? I hate them more.

Josh Olson 56:06
did not think it was possible I

Dave Anthony 56:07
think happened. I don't know what she thinks she thinks she did something. Anything

Josh Olson 56:13
she does she thinks she explained something that you don't

Wyatt Cenac 56:16
know she's got kind of like a little wink of like, Ah, I won. Yeah. Bizarro do good job or bizarro do bad job. bad job.

[VIDEO] 56:33
I'm on weapon OB host of unapologetic Prager you.com for Prager University.

Josh Olson 56:40
That's, that's not that's not who you are. That is not your name that we refuse to call you. And whatever our pronouns are, refused to use them. And

Wyatt Cenac 56:47
she would respect that she, she would totally respect that. As a conservative.

Josh Olson 56:54
Exactly. Exactly. Wow, that was that was glorious way before we have another one. But I know I promise you it'll be an hour. I didn't realize this would be so rich.

Wyatt Cenac 57:07
Yeah. I mean, if anything, I'm signing up for the Prager U newsletter. I know I'll be watching the rest. I'm going to run out a movie theater.

Josh Olson 57:25
This one is a new guy. We haven't seen any this guy's videos yet. He's got a few Dave his name's Andy puzzler. You know, he's made some news. He was a former CEO of CK e which is the parent company of Carl's Jr. and Hardee's. He was an economic adviser to Mitt Romney's presidential campaign. During his time at CK EA they paid $20 million over class action lawsuits due to overtime violations. He and his wife contributed over $300,000 to Trump's campaign. He then became a senior economic adviser to the Trump campaign. He was Trump's nominee to head the Department of Labor. There was a lot of pushback from Democrats because he mistreated his workers opposed minimum wage and supported automation. I found a great article where he talked about automation. He doesn't believe in 100% automation ultimately at the minute but he he felt that increased automation could be a welcomed development. Because machines were quote, always polite. They always upsell they never take a vacation. They never show up late. There's never a slip and fall or an age sex or race discrimination case when machine. But he does not support full automation. However, this is true, because it would make it hard to build a company culture.

Dave Anthony 58:33
Well. With machines, I think, a pretty cool culture and it certainly

Josh Olson 58:39
didn't like him. Because they they're conservative find out that it turned out his housekeeper was an undocumented worker and he hadn't paid taxes for her. So the night before his confirmation hearing, he withdrew his nomination.

Dave Anthony 58:52
I love that. I love that he he did all that terrible shit. And then they're like, You didn't pay taxes for your, like all of the bad shit. And then they're like, No, that's the one.

Josh Olson 59:03
Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So this is this is his entree. It's called ESG woke to broke.

[VIDEO] 59:13
Why do millions of people invest in retirement accounts? Well, the answer is obvious to have money to live on. When you're no longer working. The best way for those accounts to grow is to invest in companies to make a profit. less profit for those companies means less money for retirement. That might seem like common sense, but it's becoming less common, thanks to a new investment strategy called ESG. ESG stands for environmental, social and governance. If you're wondering what that means you're not alone. Generally, it means that a company's first concern should no longer be how much money it makes, but rather how much social good it does. In other words, get woke, or get shamed. If you're an oil company, for example, you You're out of luck. Because by the nature of your business, it's assumed you're destroying the planet.

Josh Olson 1:00:05
Why would that be assumed? Yeah.

Dave Anthony 1:00:08
There's actually a long historical record of these companies themselves, doing studies on their own output, and they are indeed destroying the planet. So, by their very own definition, they're destroying the planet. So it's not really assumed as much as what's happening.

Wyatt Cenac 1:00:27
But maybe they think if they destroy it, they'll be another cooler new planet grows from the remain.

Unknown Speaker 1:00:40
Never mind that you're powering homes and hospitals, that doesn't count. In fact, if you're a company just trying to make a profit, you're the problem. ESG proponent Klaus Schwab, chairman of the World Economic Forum puts it this way. We can't continue with an economic system driven by selfish values, such as short term profit, the message is clear. We need es

Wyatt Cenac 1:01:03
saying let's stay selfish. This is why it's ESG or be selfish. And I say be selfish.

Dave Anthony 1:01:23
Why would we act like we're part of a large global community? Yeah, we can make money.

Wyatt Cenac 1:01:30
Yeah. Whoever is the chum in the water. That's them. But I'm a shark baby.

Unknown Speaker 1:01:40
From ourselves. Really, the pursuit of profits is fueled many of mankind's greatest innovations and greatest companies name on

Dave Anthony 1:01:49
we put lead and we put lead in gasoline.

Wyatt Cenac 1:01:54
I feel like all the things he's gonna name it's like McDonald's. Oh, you mean that company that has done more to kind of just push like fatty awful foods to people? Yeah, that one and Marlboro? Oh, sure. Yeah. Great company. Yeah, they push profits. And they did some amazing things for humanity. Yeah. Vegan Smith and Wesson. Like no one ever got hurt.

Josh Olson 1:02:26
i A friend of mine many years back took $1,000 and and did a project ICO. I mean, he just wanted to see it work out. He invested in evil. And he just invested solely in companies that were absolutely ruthless and immoral and did terrible things created terrible products. And he made a fortune.

Unknown Speaker 1:02:44
It led Elon Musk to build electric cars. Andy Grove?

Wyatt Cenac 1:02:48
Sure. Yeah. Okay, let's let's talk about Elon Musk. He's a total great guy. Oh, my gosh, what? Zero and, you know, as long as we don't talk about all those people who are fucking getting sick in his cobalt mines. Yeah, and, and granted, sorry, I know, they're not his cobalt mines. They're just general cobalt mines that are polluting water and getting people sick. And he doesn't want to have any sort of regulation over them or have any responsibility. But yeah, let's let's, but he's a fucking hero. Okay, Andy Grove, who's this guy?

Josh Olson 1:03:22
But I guess before I last night, I was on a lift. I know this is happening. I don't understand maybe what you guys can explain because I never bothered to look into it. But it took a lift last night. And for the first time ever, I was in Elon's car, a Tesla. And my understanding of people who drive for lifts. I mean, I know several of them is these are not people who as a rule can afford Tesla's but they're not Tesla Lyft drivers, I don't get it. And I got in the car. And I sat down and I saw it. And first I tried to open the window and realize it was the button supposed to lock the door couldn't get either to work. As the car took up, took off, I realized there was something inside of the size of an iPad right next to the driver. And I was like, Oh my fucking god, I want a Tesla. And honestly, it was a terrifying 15 minute ride because those things are not safe. And you can't get out of them. When they catch on fire brand. There's all kinds of horrible shit. And it's like he's been he's been juking stats forever. They've been paying off people who lose loved ones or lose arms in accidents.

Wyatt Cenac 1:04:21
And as a CEO, I mean, there's like discrimination lawsuits against the dude. But yeah,

Josh Olson 1:04:26
oh, god. Yeah, I mean, yeah, the corporate culture is terrible. My favorite thing is that with a self drive function, if you get into an accident, the self drive function turns off one second before the collision, so that they are not actually liable. Oh, responsible.

Wyatt Cenac 1:04:48
Smart thinking that's why people call him that's why people call them real life Tony Stark, because we all know that Tony Stark the first thing he thinks of as an avenger is how much collateral damage can I create

Unknown Speaker 1:05:06
Andy Grove to design computer chips, and Reed Hastings to develop the world's most popular streaming service?

Josh Olson 1:05:13
That's Netflix he's talking about and that's that's why are you annoyed

Wyatt Cenac 1:05:17
by it? Yeah, yeah.

Josh Olson 1:05:20
Yeah, we're all about to get a strong strike. Because anymore. Let's do

Wyatt Cenac 1:05:26
something about like, and yeah, Netflix was created, you know, that thing that's totally undermined television.

Josh Olson 1:05:37
It's why we're all doing podcasts now. Instead of working on

Wyatt Cenac 1:05:40
something that's undermine TV and movies. Yeah. And destroyed blockbuster. Remember that?

Josh Olson 1:05:47
Well, yeah. You told me we love them.

Unknown Speaker 1:05:50
brings to commercial airplanes too. Yes, solar panels and wind turbines came about because of the desire for profit. Profit is why you have a job clothes, a house food, and every other necessity. Yeah, hold on.

Dave Anthony 1:06:04
No, no, no, no. We have our inventions come out of the government research and development. Like, you just do the COVID vaccines, but there's just tons of shit that comes out of like, research and development that our government is doing and then all of a sudden some company has it makes money. Yeah, that's what it is.

Wyatt Cenac 1:06:28
Velcro. That's I feel like the one that that's always my go to is velcro. That was NASA created Velcro.

Dave Anthony 1:06:35
Yeah. Tons of stuff has come from space exploration and military stuff. That's where all radar and all that shit comes from, like, you know, remote sensing space sticks. That's

Wyatt Cenac 1:06:48
not let's I hear what you're saying, Dave, but I feel like you're not really appreciating Velcro.

Unknown Speaker 1:06:57
Not to mention luxuries. It's the reason why you can live in Phoenix and stay cool. or live in Buffalo and stay warm. The genius wait.

Josh Olson 1:07:06
It's also the reason why you have to have air conditioning and Phoenix Oriole fighting die. But let's there's

Dave Anthony 1:07:11
no actual. I can live in Buffalo in a system in which there's no profit for energy companies and still be warm. Does he know how a lot of the world works? A lot of the world works by not profiting off of utility companies. They're government owned.

Wyatt Cenac 1:07:33
Yeah, but where's the fun in that

Unknown Speaker 1:07:42
capitalism is it requires businesses to do good things for society to make a fuck. Fuck. What is he? Ready PGD