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Rutger Bregman On Democrats, Purity Politics, And Moral Ambition

This week on Lever Time, David Sirota sat down with the provocative author and historian Rutger Bregman, who explains why he believes modern measures of success are harming our society. 

As an exclusive bonus episode for our premium subscribers, we’re sharing the rest of their conversation. Bregman and Sirota debate a variety of issues — from the abundance movement and holding powerful people accountable when they’re wrong, to how the Democratic Party could fix its agenda and win back the working class. 

Click here to learn about Bregman’s book, Moral Ambition: Stop Wasting Your Talent And Start Making A Difference.

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